First we were off to 42 Hoxton Square to check out the Kessels Kramer Outlet store to see its Creative Director Richard Walker, of W+K Amsterdam fame. It was a strange place really, ultimately cool in its design - a multifunctional design/creative space that doubles up as a Gallery and Shop. It was literally the size of shop, where plywood met with cutting edge design and bright patterned wallpapers.
The whole place oozed - (what a horrible word) creativity, Richard had some very interesting things to say, our perception of our portfolio was quite traditional in the sense that it was the nature of our degree course and how we were directed in university, traditional medias at the helm with a dabble in the extended medias. He shared his opinions and advice which we will be taking to great consideration, but fundamentally, the biggest point that sticks in my mind was with regards to our traditional perception.
'Your ideas are quite the opposite in fact, but it is the executions that are traditional'Much like Jo & Steve at Y&R, Richard Shared with us another secret that there are approximately 12 ways (not 5) of saying something and it's how you say it that makes your idea unique. This is something that will definitely influence our future contributions towards the book. What's more we were invited back in a month which will give us a chance to incorporate what we have learnt.
The Afternoon was back off to JWT to see Simon & Hannah a Creative Team who we had worked with at the beginning of our placement. Nice to see familiar faces, as Phil mentioned there's a certain comfort about heading back to JWT, yet there is a certain strange feeling as well, although I couldn't explain it.
Simon & Hannah were extremely busy as they had just had some work bought through by the client consisting of numerous TV ads, Online & Press executions to be done ASAP so we were grateful for the time they put aside for us.
After a general chit chat, we had a chat about the book, the offered us some insight into the things they expect to see in the book and I always find it intriguing to hear the mixed feedback across the department even within the same agency. Fascinating. On the whole it was positive, the thing that really surprised me was that JWT is known firstly, for its TV & Press, and the both Hannah & Simon were striving for us to go beyond that. Any campaign that was not integrated was encouraged to do so, those that were solely digital based were encouraged to go into traditional.
It's a pretty exciting time for us, having fun, shaping our book - without any restraints - other than that of directing our book towards the agencies we one day aspire to work at.
Next up Funny Friday...
9 comments:
Great to read about your experiences. Think it's great your going to loads of different types of agencies. Love reading this sort of stuff, keep it up!
R
I agree with Rusty, it’s encouraging to see a team go to so, many agencies. It’s also really nice to know that teams will make time to see you if you’re up to it. I assume you now have a better understanding of where you'd like to work?
I read something by Dave Trott the other day, he talked about what teams should do once they have visited a few agencies, it basically is summed up as....
"Start a new book"
Did the crits make you feel like you should do this?
Its something that I dont know much about.
Luke
In all honesty - you're constantly reshaping your book, yes, there's a few things that hang about in one shape or another, but ultimately the answer is yes.
Especially with Y&R. heh. People want to see that you're motivated, eager and willing to put the time in, if you can take on board what they said and turn up with a fresh load of produce tailored to their comments you cant' go wrong right? .... right?
Every crit you want to come away with a whole new book tailored to each and every agency you've been to. It's impossible, you take what you consider to be the most valued feedback and incorporate that.
We're still new to the whole scene if i'm honest, but that's impression we get, the one bit of advice we've learnt is not to be precious about your work. No matter how much time you put in. Every idea should be a throw away idea, not to say its not well thought out or clever - just that when the majority don't like it you'll have no problem in knocking it for six.
(Think that should have been a post not a comment ha ha)
Going to loads of different agencies is really good, especially if you're not sure where you want to go. We gate crashed 10 agencies in a week and most of them were happy to see us. A couple told us to go away and book an appointment. We never went back to them (which was not an issue). Good luck with it all.
Mike: Find the 4 agencies that you like and work your book towards them. Go back every 2 weeks with the changes that they want.
What agencies are you all looking at?
DM
Cheers DM that's what we plan to do with the exception of the next two weeks as we aren't in London! but otherwise we would!
You're over at Dare aren't you?
Yeah we are. You guys from out of London then? We went on major book crits in our second year and they have paid off. Slacking a little of late but it's because we are really busy. Planning to hit the book crits next month though.
DM
Thanks guys, nice to hear your opinion. Mike & Phil, did you graduate this year?or are you still at Uni?
Plus, we'd really appreciate it if you can add us to your blog roll, pop by and have a look at our new project if you get a sec.
Thanks
Luke
Yeah no worries, We just finished this year. Like the 2nd of June and were straight into JWT on the 16th.
I'll add you now. We'll send all of our 3 readers over to you ha ha.
Hi guys, first off, thanks for the blog its a real encouragement and special to read.
Sorry if I sound like a total newbie (seriously, I'm not) but, what did you mean when you said:
"Much like Jo & Steve at Y&R, Richard Shared with us another secret that there are approximately 12 ways (not 5) of saying something and it's how you say it that makes your idea unique."
Really curious thanks
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